posted by Guest (guest)
on 12.09.2007 12:32
posted by tehn (tehn)
on 12.09.2007 13:23
not really.
posted by finn (finn)
on 12.09.2007 16:08
This one is more interesting and uh oh ish

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LPkUvfL8T1I
posted by jmelnyk (jmelnyk)
on 12.09.2007 16:31
agreed.  now i can't wait to get my 256 so that i can program pong on it 
:)
posted by cdub (cdub)
on 12.09.2007 16:52
that would be amazing! that alone would make me consider buying a 256.
posted by tonedeft (tonedeft)
on 12.09.2007 17:29
pong on a 256 would look amazing!

how about a sadistic game of simon on a 256?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aE-iqW8N4Fs
posted by eske (eske)
on 12.09.2007 17:54
have you discussed the tenori in this forum?

please elaborate on your quote...
posted by tonedeft (tonedeft)
on 12.09.2007 18:11
http://forum.monome.org/topic/1329#new
for starters

they're kinda the same on a superficial level but just happened to come 
out around the same time.  the monome stuff is focused on community 
driven open source DIY software and hardware, the tenori on is made by 
yamaha, unknown if it's hackable and limited in apps and sounds with 
what yamaha provides.

my not so educated $0.02.
posted by stephen (stephen)
on 12.09.2007 18:19
^ what tone said.

the 256 and tenori-on are similar if and only if you haven't done 
anywhere near enough research to justify stumping up the ¥ for either.

in fact that should be a litmus test for the oft-asked "should i buy a 
mononme?". answer - "can you tell the difference between a tenori-on and 
a monome? if not, then, no, you perhaps shouldn't get a monome". 
perhaps.
posted by tehn (tehn)
on 12.09.2007 20:37
posted by jmelnyk (jmelnyk)
on 12.09.2007 20:45
exactly.  they're only similar in that they both have a bunch of toggle 
switches that light up.  beyond that, they're pretty different.

all in all, it's easiest to sum it up by saying that the monome can (and 
soon will, with a bit of programming effort) do everything the tenori 
can do.  however, the tenori can't do what the monome can; it can just 
do what a couple of the monome's apps can.

the monome is limited only by your imagination and programming 
skills/willingness to learn.  the tenori is limited by what yamaha says 
it is (which at the moment means general midi sounds and less-than one 
second samples...cool!).
posted by stephen (stephen)
on 12.09.2007 21:43
i still want a tenori-on though. if only it didn't cost the same as my 
car. jesus. ..
posted by wingo (wingo)
on 13.09.2007 22:14
They did a fairly thorough review at Sonic State.  To me it seems more 
like a toy, and not very flexible at all. In fact, the reviewer seems 
much less than impressed with it.

You can watch the video, and read some interesting dialog regarding the 
Monome/Tenori-On debate here:

http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2007/09/yamaha-tenori-on-review-on-sonic-state.html
posted by tehn (tehn)
on 14.09.2007 00:08
thanks for the post, very insightful. again i must reiterate how awkward 
it is being compared to yamaha.
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 14.09.2007 03:47
how soon until you guys start making $100 guitars that i can get at 
costco?

=P
posted by actuel (actuel)
on 14.09.2007 04:17
fo'real come on!

;)
posted by jmelnyk (jmelnyk)
on 14.09.2007 14:29
that sonicstate review is nice to see.  lots of info on this device. 
doesn't really come off too favorably, tho.  there's a lot of 
limitations there that'll be difficult to work with, i'd think. 
generally in a hardware device, the limitations are a good thing; they 
make you think differently and come up with unexpected results.  but 
this seems a bit too limiting to be useful for anything other than a 
sketchpad.  and that's a lot to spend on a sketchpad.