posted by kevin (kevin)
on 12.09.2007 10:55
Loop phasing composition utility

http://wiki.monome.org/view/AppMaxMspLph
posted by richard (richard)
on 12.09.2007 12:49
interesting.
is the file attached to the wiki?


NEVER MIND I SEE IT!
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 12.09.2007 16:46
yeah, it looks sortof hidden up there, but it is there.
posted by tomoe97 (tomoe97)
on 12.09.2007 22:10
This sounds very intriguing, but I can't get it to work.  Could you 
provide step-by-step instructions?

Thanks!
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 12.09.2007 23:39
open 40h_LPU.map with mapd

open _Lph.mxb

click "open" or press 'o' on the keyboard to open a loop,

then press space bar or the "start" button (below the open button, not 
next to "save"

use the 40h to control phase relation.
posted by arne (arne)
on 13.09.2007 17:28
attachment: Rapport.doc (68 KB)
Hi
I cant open the _Lph.mxb or the skr, or mlr..
Max crashes on me, this happens with alot of the (monome) max patches 
around..
Anyone want to take a look at the file:Rapport included in this message.

I have contacted cycling 74 about this, but they say it is not their 
fault.
All help appreciated, I have tried "everything"...
Thank You
arne
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 13.09.2007 17:50
what operating system are you on? -edit- nvm, it's right there at the 
top of the report.


and what app were you running when this crash report was generated?

were you running any programs other than max/msp and 
monomeserial/mapd/serialio/etc ?

has anyone else used the monome simultaneously with a Wacom tablet 
plugged in?
posted by arne (arne)
on 13.09.2007 18:02
Hi
Im on OSX 10.4.10, it was the same when I was running 10.3.9.
Its an old problem, it happens with alot of the max patches regardless 
of what other programs Im running or doing to make it work. Believe me 
:/ I have tried everything.
My last postings on this problem:
http://forum.monome.org/topic/805#new
I am using a wacom tablet, but it crashes even if Im using it or not..
arne
posted by revbean (revbean)
on 13.09.2007 18:17
> has anyone else used the monome simultaneously with a Wacom tablet plugged in?

I can likely rule this out as the problem. I use a Wacom exclusively for 
cursor input, and haven't had any problems with the 40h and Max/MSP. I'm 
also on 10.4.10.

Every so often Max/MSP will hang, and nothing short of restarting my 
machine will remove the process, but it's never been a consistent thing.

Sorry that I'm not more help.
posted by arne (arne)
on 13.09.2007 18:20
Yes, thats my experience as well with the wacom.
This problem of mine with some of the patches in max seems to be a 
problem shrouded in mystery.. :(
a
posted by tomoe97 (tomoe97)
on 13.09.2007 18:42
I couldn't get it to work initially on my machine because _Lph.mxb 
wasn't able to locate  64button.abs.mxb.  Without the latter, none of 
the buttons work (or even have text indicating what they do).  I copied 
64button.abs.mxb to the Lph folder and now everything works fine.

Nifty program!  Steve Reich for the masses!
posted by arne (arne)
on 13.09.2007 18:52
My Mapd works, so is my 40h_LPU.map, but when I try to open the 
_Lph.mxb, max crashes.
a
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 13.09.2007 19:42
shit. that 64button.abs.mxb might be your problem arne.

that file is in either the mlr folder or 64step folder or both

i'll upload a new .zip with that file in the folder soon.
posted by arne (arne)
on 13.09.2007 19:52
..no thats not where there problem is, as i said, Mapd works, so is my 
40h_LPU.map, buttons lights up and everything, but when I try to open 
the: _Lph.mxb, max crashes.
a
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 13.09.2007 20:06
attachment: _Lph.zip (5,9 KB)
yeah, that makes sense. the .map file is for Mapd, but 64button.abs.mxb 
is a max file abstraction for the buttons i used in _Lph.mxb.

tomoe: are you using max runtime, or full version?

arne: try deleting what you have and downloading this version.
posted by arne (arne)
on 13.09.2007 20:14
Thank you but max is crashing as before:(
a
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 13.09.2007 22:31
hmm. i dunno what to tell you. since it's crashing with mlr and 
everything else as well, it's probably not this patch. have you tried 
doing the prebinding fix?
posted by arne (arne)
on 13.09.2007 22:36
Hi
What is the prebinding fix? It is not crashing with everything by the 
way, makes it even stranger..
a
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 13.09.2007 22:57
hmmm, on second thought, maybe it's irrelevant since you're on a g4, 
but...


http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=105069&rid=0&S=03aa5b6521d91c9f904b148b3a1f8824
posted by tehn (tehn)
on 13.09.2007 23:58
@arne: again, this is really a cycling74 or setup problem. which is 
weird because os x is pretty easy to use with max/msp.

what you need to do is find one of their help patches that crashes 
max/msp (so that "monome" isn't involved at all), and send them the bug 
report.
posted by tomoe97 (tomoe97)
on 14.09.2007 05:54
I'm using the latest version of max runtime on a G5 with OS 10.4.10 and 
haven't had any max crashes.  Even when I couldn't get Lph to work 
initially, max runtime didn't crash but simply indicated in the message 
box that it couldn't locate 64button.abs.mxb. What I would suggest is 
reinstalling the latest version of max runtime and then repairing 
permissions.
posted by arne (arne)
on 14.09.2007 07:57
Hello
Thank you tehn, i will do that, they would not touch it the last time 
when monome patches was involved..

tomoe97: I have tried reinstalling alot :) I repaired the permission and 
deleting/reinstalling the latest version, it crashes again.
Off to cycling74.

added: Now I have sent them a crash repport from one of their own 
patch...lets see what happens next.


arne
posted by tonedeft (tonedeft)
on 14.09.2007 09:31
<shakes fist at mac users>
posted by arne (arne)
on 14.09.2007 09:33
hehe
posted by arne (arne)
on 14.09.2007 18:01
The solution, I am finaly able to open the patches!
-----
Arne,

It looks like you have changed the location of the MaxMSP 4.6 folder and 
its contents.  The MaxMSP 4.6 folder needs to be directly in the 
Applications folder, and its contents must be left as installed.

Either replace the items to their original locations, or do a clean 
install.  To clean out MaxMSP 4.6.x entirely, remove these items:
~/Library/Preferences/Max 4.6 Preferences
../Library/Frameworks/MaxAPI.framework
../Library/Frameworks/MaxAudioAPI.framework
../Library/Frameworks/MaxJSRef.framework
../Library/Frameworks/JitterAPI.framework
../Library/CFMSupport/MaxCFMAdaptor and MaxAudioCFMAdaptor
/Applications/MaxMSP 4.6

Once you've done that, make sure you have the latest installer available 
from our website:

http://www.cycling74.com/downloads

All the best,
-Ben

edit: So what I did was trashing all of the above documents and a clean 
install.
and wooooo!!!:)
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 14.09.2007 19:09
woo!