posted by cizrek (cizrek)
on 01.07.2007 02:08
i cant get it to work how to u start the dang thing?
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 01.07.2007 22:59
open nibbler.mxb (careful, not nibble.mxb), press the start window 
button, raise the slider, and load a sample by clicking "filename (click 
here to open)" (i think it says that, the new version just says 
filename, but it's not done yet).

that should work...
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 02.07.2007 00:38
attachment: _nibbler_0.1.zip (27,9 KB)
oh, you probably don't have Lobjects installed.

I think the only Lobject I used was Lswap, so here is a zip of the 
latest version, with Lswap.mxo included in the folder. i've updated the 
wiki to reflect this.

there are some new features, but it's still not done.

endtime still only applies when the sample is looped and presets are 
coming soon.

also, Lobjects are available here:
http://arts.ucsc.edu/ems/music/research/Lobjects.readme.html
posted by pieck101 (pieck101)
on 04.07.2007 15:09
i get an error:

loading old cfm extension disabled

(mac MaxMSP runtime)

can i do anything about it?

regards
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 04.07.2007 18:03
huh.... i have no idea what that means.

are you sure you installed Lobjects into the same folder that MaxMSP 
runtime is in?
posted by pieck101 (pieck101)
on 05.07.2007 07:59
well nibler works!

i think i had an older LSwap

at least when i (re)intalled it it works

only with monomeserial not wit serialio

thanks
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 08.07.2007 02:09
yes, nibbler will not work with serialio, as it uses the prefix /nib

the new version is coming along well and going to be pretty kickass.

i added ADSR and am working on the presets right now.
posted by pieck101 (pieck101)
on 08.07.2007 05:47
ok

well looking forward to that
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 18.07.2007 01:58
attachment: _nibbler_0.8.zip (34,7 KB)
newest version.

i still haven't gotten all of the kinks out of the presets, and there 
might be some bugs in the ADSR, but it works well for the most part. the 
X box labeled "en" is a release enable that doesn't work. with "en" 
checked, the release of a button on the monome will trigger the release 
envelope, making the sound stop. with "en" unchecked the sound will stop 
as given by the "end time" or sound file graphic. again, this doesn't 
work properly right now. it works right unenabled, but doesn't properly 
release when enabled.

lights still don't work, and i'm not 100% sure how i want to implement 
them. it will involve blinking on some level, just not sure how.

i'm not sure how it will work on windows, so i'd definitely appreciate 
any feedback in that area.
posted by pieck101 (pieck101)
on 18.07.2007 06:16
wow

i like this very much (i'm on a mac)

thanx
posted by phreak (phreak)
on 21.07.2007 11:18
My Max Runtime is telling me errors too. I dropped the "Lswap.mxo" in 
the Folder ~/Applications//MaxMSP Runtime 4.6/Cycling '74/externals/...

Is that right ? Thanx for help.
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 21.07.2007 12:09
that should work. what exactly do the errors say?
posted by phreak (phreak)
on 21.07.2007 12:20
"•error_ Lbuild: No such object"

This error line appears ca. 50 times.
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 21.07.2007 17:48
ah. i guess i need to include Lbuild too.

try downloading Lobjects from here:
http://arts.ucsc.edu/ems/music/research/Lobjects.readme.html
posted by pieck101 (pieck101)
on 02.08.2007 19:11
i use it a lot and i like it

but how is it going with nibbler

the lights etc i would like visual feedback

and what is the rec?

oh and could some nibbles be run in synq with an other?


regards
posted by tonedeft (tonedeft)
on 02.08.2007 20:07
a note from a PC user... all these mac OS specific files need to be 
cleaned out before the files can be unzipped, dunno what the files are 
about but I'm experiencing OS angst.

looks like a very fun program, working on getting it going now.  thanks 
for the new updates and all your work kevin!

edit - ugh... deleting the files from the archive seems to have locked 
up my computer, just a 'deleting from archive' message.

help?
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 02.08.2007 22:41
attachment: _nibbler08_noLob.zip (22,7 KB)
ayeee. i'm glad someone on a pc is finally taking a look at the nibs..

are you getting errors on any files in particular? really none of the 
files should be mac os specific except for the Lobjects.

so, here is a zip without the Lobjects. i'm not sure if this will help?


to pieck:
during the early stages, i was thinking about integrating a sample 
recorder into nibbler, which is why the "rec" and "stop" buttons are 
there. they will probably disappear in the future and i will include the 
Quickrecord patch that comes with max in the bundle of stuff.

i'm working on a sequencer for triggering nibbles. is this what you mean 
by running in sync? or do you mean beat synchronization across multiple 
loops? cause that's a little bit more difficult.
posted by tonedeft (tonedeft)
on 02.08.2007 22:50
very cool. :)

I get file not found errors, stuff like that.  thanks for the quick 
turnaround on that.  I'm back at work (I went home at lunch to play) but 
will check it out later tonight.
posted by kid-sputnik (kid-sputnik)
on 03.08.2007 02:40
it seems that not all LObjects are ported to windows.  i started 
downloading them, im gonna try nibbler as soon as i get them up.  sorry 
i havent sooner kevin, been so busy lately.
posted by tonedeft (tonedeft)
on 03.08.2007 03:10
copying the new files over, the presets file gets the error "the system 
cannot find the file specified" the rest copy fine.

...have to reboot, will update as I try more.  new GUI looks much 
improved.

LSWAP - no such object.  I did the download of the other external files 
into the max/msp directory.

shit, well, lots of other to try out, let me know if there's any other 
testing I can try out, more than glad to help out.

btw monome serial with _midi test from the 4_0_0_0 base patches doesn't 
light anything on the screen, the buttons and LEDs work fine, but the 
GUI's not responding.


'sall good, beta testing on a large project.  please feel free to use me 
as a test rat.
posted by pieck101 (pieck101)
on 03.08.2007 06:56
yes a sequencer will be fine to...
i was experimenting with radial and you could see the radials as a sort 
of nibbles
.. there they could run in sync....but i can't get the monome conected 
with some clicks when i push the buttons so i dont use it that much with 
the monome....


some sample recording would be nice to


but/and what i really would like is that you can sync-loop say nibble 1 
and
and in an totaly other tempo nibble 2 and 7


well something like that...

i'm not a programmer so for me everything you do for us is a big thank 
you!
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 08.08.2007 05:18
hot shit.

i just got 64step to control nibbler.

i'm shitting bricks.

now to get it to go the other way around!

and then to finalize the user interface!


(and then to implement swing...)


weeeeeee!!!
posted by pieck101 (pieck101)
on 11.08.2007 11:44
looking forward
posted by bolig (bolig)
on 11.08.2007 18:31
is it required to have the monome plugged in to work. i followed your 
instructions above (i also installed lobjects) it clearly loads the 
audio file but manually pressing the buttons does nothing.
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 11.08.2007 20:30
yeah, for some reason manually clicking the buttons doesn't trigger the 
sample (even though i think it's supposed to on mouse-up, the way i 
programmed it).

in the next version, clicking the buttons only brings up the effects 
panel for that button, and the sound can only be triggered from the 
monome.

the _40h_fake.mxb patch should work fine with it if you can change the 
prefix to /nib
posted by bolig (bolig)
on 12.08.2007 01:58
sweet… thanks my monome's case is still under construction and until its 
finished ill be toying around with these greats apps in anticipation of 
something i can mash on.
posted by pieck101 (pieck101)
on 16.08.2007 18:35
how is it going with the sequencer and nibbler?
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 16.08.2007 19:34
unfortunately very very slow.

i have been swamped with schoolwork for the past week.

next week my life gets a lot nicer, and i'll have time to finish this 
up.


sorry for the delay.
posted by Mm (guest)
on 23.08.2007 08:36
i was just curious about sequencing nibbles.
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 23.08.2007 08:52
no sequencing yet. i'm actually working on tying nibbler to 64step (in 
somewhat of a hack) right now.

school is finally done for a month!
posted by pieck101 (pieck101)
on 29.08.2007 18:20
keep us posted with your progress please
posted by kevin (kevin)
on 30.08.2007 03:51
i appreciate the enthusiasm.. nothing is done yet though.

basically i'm dealing with a lot of brainstorming to figure out how to 
implement presets (i.e. treat patterns in 64step separately from sound 
banks in nibbler, or bundle them all together).

there's also the issue of getting presets to work in the first place.

lately, in attempts to further abstract the elements of the program, i 
made it crash and throw a shit fit.

i did figure out how to substantially lower the amount of bpatchers by 
writing a dynamic route object though.